378182 (original text)
|Subject||Re: MX1 concerned about Wikileaks|
|Date||Dec 5, 2010 19:44|
|Released||Mar 3, 2012 08:00|
State has pulled the plug on OGA access to their cables.
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
From: "scott stewart" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 13:02:33 -0500
To: 'Marko Papic'<email@example.com>; 'Fred
Cc: 'Alex Posey'<firstname.lastname@example.org>; 'Ben
Subject: RE: MX1 concerned about Wikileaks
This makes a lot of sense. The Wikileaks case will do the same thing (at
least for a while) for a lot of countries as far as their contact with the
From: Marko Papic [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:33 PM
To: Fred Burton
Cc: Alex Posey; scott stewart; Ben West
Subject: Re: MX1 concerned about Wikileaks
I doubt they would scrub his name. The only repercussion for MX1 would be
that he said something embarrassing and Wiki is all about publishing
embarrassing statements. He is concerned that if the Juarez briefs are
published, they might have him saying something negative about GOM, that
is really his only concern.
The interesting thing he highlighted is that it is going to be more
difficult to be frank with Americans now. There is concern that more such
leaks could happen. From Mexicans' standpoint they are not really afraid
of giving secrets to Americans. They are scared that they are frank, blast
corruption/incompetence in MXC, and then get fired when those cables are
MX1 says that this is a bad thing because it is already difficult to get
Mexicans to be frank about how much GOM sucks. First you have the
nationalism issue, then the fact that many just don't like Americans, and
now the ones that want to be frank are afraid they'll lose their job when
GOM finds out they said Calderon has his head up his ass and that the
Consul General is taking money from the Zetas.
He has not seen any that U.S. diplomats from Juarez consulate wrote and he
wouldn't have written any himself of course.
From: "Fred Burton" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
To: "Marko Papic" <email@example.com>
Cc: "Alex Posey" <firstname.lastname@example.org>, "scott stewart"
<email@example.com>, "Ben West" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2010 8:00:37 AM
Subject: Re: MX1 concerned about Wikileaks
He should be concerned.
On a positive note, I've seen a few names scrubbed out by the Wiki edit
process, but have no idea who is doing this or their guidance.
Has he seen any that he has written?
Marko Papic wrote:
> I only now managed to talk to MX1 about Wikileaks. He had a lot of
> interesting insight about the language used by U.S. diplomats and the
> effect that the leaks are having on his own work and that of his
> colleagues. One thing he stressed is how unreliable the memos are.
> From his own experience -- having written hundreds -- the memos
> exaggerate the importance of information and sources for a reason, the
> diplomats are trying to justify their own existence and position. He
> did think some of the U.S. titles were quite ludicrous -- such as the
> one on cat in Turkmenistan.
> On a more serious note, MX1 indicated that he is very concerned about
> the Mexican batch of leaked memos. He said that thus far only 6 have
> been released, however, in total there are over a thousand.
> Apparently, there are 19 from Juarez. He knows the American
> counterparts in the Juarez Consulate very well. In his words, they
> ended up under a table of quite a few establishments drunk out of
> their mind together. He worries that the memos these diplomats wrote
> might cite him. In fact, he thinks that no other Mexican diplomat from
> El Paso consulate made the effort as much as he did to reach out to
> the Americans across the Rio in Juarez.
> He is not worried about any actual intel being leaked. He says he
> didn't leak any Mexican national secrets. The problem is that one of
> the American diplomats may have cited a conversation they had and said
> something like "subject looked nervous" or "subject is highly doubtful
> of GOM ability to do X" and get him into trouble. He has a policy of
> being as frank as possible with American law enforcement and diplomats
> and it could very well come out that he was blasting GOM in one of the
> memos. Knowing how Mexicans are when it comes to national criticism
> (not very good) he may get fucked.
> I told him not to sweat it. We always need interns. ;)
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